What
year did Women Boxing Archive Network (WBAN) come into
existence and who created WBAN?
Direct response from Sue TL Fox,
Creator/Founder of WBAN: This has been quite a journey so far, that began in 1996,
after wanting to get in shape to run in the Race For the
Cure in Portland, Oregon. I joined a boxing gym in Portland,
after not being in the sport for 17 plus years. I learned
about Christy Martin and the fantastic fight she had
fighting Dierdre Gogarty. Being a pioneer boxer it peeked my
interest.
What is odd, is WBAN would have never taken place in May of
1998, because originally, I wanted to create a website on
Breast Cancer, an informational site.
Full Story on WBAN's beginnings
Are
boxing records of past female pioneer boxers accurate on the
Internet?
Absolutely NOT! On the
Internet there is inaccuracy of past female boxers.
Many of the pioneer female boxers fought exhibitions and
their fights were not sanctioned, and not sent in to the
boxing records organization FIGHT FAX who was in existence
when many of the pioneer female boxers were actually
fighting in the past. FIGHTFAX recorded
commission records throughout countless years, and many of
the pioneer female boxers do not even have records with
FIGHTFAX and were considered exhibitions in many cases from
the past according this OFFICIAL boxing records site.
Was
their a ranking system for the past female boxers that
pioneered the sport?
Female boxers from the 1970's and 1980s had
many rankings published in the Boxing Illustrated magazine,
and the Glove Magazine, and others. Here is a link to
the rankings.
Rankings throughout the years
Why
is it you feature fighters that have obvious mismatches?
If I were to eliminate fighters from WBAN just
because they do something the public does not approve of, there would
probably be no fighters to talk about, including myself. When my book is
published you will read about some of my fights and some of the
not-so-good experiences that I had as a fighter. I am not here to pass
judgment on fighters, only to try and improve the sport in a positive way.
What kind of a
breast protector did you use
in the 70's, or did they even have that type of equipment?
It was a requirement that women
wear a breast protector when fighting in a professional bout. The breast
protector looked like two salad bowls, that the woman would sew on
the inside
of the bra.
Did you wear a breast protector when you trained in the gym?
NO.
I wish that I had. I
developed problems later in life, and now wonder if it was because the majority of the
time I trained, I had no protection. I have heard other comments on this
subject by
women say that "you don't get hit in that area" and so why is
there a concern. I do not believe that. Especially when a lot of times
the woman's sparring partners are men. Also, many of the female competitors came
from a previous background of karate and kick-boxing. They cannot say that no one
ever kicked them in the breast at one time or another.
I never heard of any female boxers in the
70's and 80's. I thought women were only into kickboxing then?
In the 70's and 80's, we not
only had to fight to get a bout, fight to get boxing licenses to get
permission to fight, but in the 70's and 80's, it was not cool for a woman
to want to box. We were called a "novelty." The media did not give us a lot
of coverage. Boxing promoters, boxing magazines, etc., were discouraged by
featuring us. When Cathy "Cat" Davis was featured on the cover of Ring
magazine, you would have thought the world was coming to an end. To my
knowledge, Ring magazine never did any other feature stories on
female
boxers in that era.
I noticed that the women's boxing records vary greatly from one from another, why is that?
While doing the research for my website, to my
surprise, it was very hard to verify any of the female boxers' records.
When I
contacted various State Athletic Commissions to obtain information, they did not have
records going back before 1978. I am still working on this project.
Another thing that I noticed is that I believe that some of the records were either
embellished, or that the women are counting countless unsanctioned bouts, from kick-boxing
matches to whatever. I would be more inclined to evaluate a female boxer in
the past by who she fought, not by any of the records that they claim to
possess.
What type of
physical examination did a
woman have to go through before a scheduled sanctioned boxing bout?
This varied from state to
state. In Oregon, they were very thorough. I went to a doctor's office
and had a complete physical. In Nevada, I had one doctor come up to me about an hour
before my bout, he looked at my hands, checked my wraps, and said, "Your
alive." That was the extent of my
examination. That particular fight, I
was running a 102 temperature and had the flu. When I fought in Utah, I heard the
physician talking to my opponent shortly before the fight, which he didn't sound like he
was checking her out by judging by their conversation. He then came into my room to
examine me, and wanted to look at my breasts. It would have been one thing
for a doctor to examine a fighter's
breast augmentation
before and after the
fight to ensure that no damage would be done or had occurred, but that was
blatant disrespect and harassment. I told him that he did not request
that from the other fighter in the adjoining room, and that if he insisted on examining my
breasts, that I would not fight. He backed down, and left the room.
What were some of the disadvantages female boxers faced in the 70's and 80's that have
changed since then?
There
were many events that have changed since the 70's and 80's, which make me a firm believer
that female boxing is NOW going to make it's mark and is here to stay.
First,
one very significant change is that
women can now compete on an amateur level before
turning pro. In the 70's and 80's, a woman trained for awhile, sometimes, for
only a few months, and then was thrown into a "Lion's den" and the got the
wholly daylights beat out of her. It didn't make much of an exciting match.
Many, MANY, women who started boxing in the 70's and 80's, would quit after
having one or two fights. They did not have a fighting chance.
Between
being mismatched, and unable to get their feet wet in an amateur setting first.
Secondly, the women boxers of today are treated
like athletics. They are getting televised fights that reach out to the public,
whereas, the women in the past did not get very much media coverage and were at times
considered some kind of novelty act.